This coat. I mean, THIS COAT. I almost didn’t think I’d make it to the end! This post is ridiculously long, whiny, and detailed, but I’m considering it much-needed therapy after this whole experience. Strap in, friends.
Okay, this is not my first coat, but it is definitely the most legit coat I’ve ever made — zipper, hood, a variety of pockets, etc. This is a full-on coat, and while I knew I this was going to be a bit of a stretch project, in which I’d try a bit harder, take a bit longer, and learn a bit more than a typical project, I did not see it coming. I secretly thought it would end up being easy. Not so. This coat nearly broke my sewing spirit. That said, it’s done, it’s pretty damn good, and I’ll probably wear it all winter long, and hopefully for many winters to come.
The pattern is Simplicity 8470, and I’m both totally surprised and totally not that this pattern has kind of flown under the radar. It’s a straight-up (and really good) knockoff of the popular J Crew Chateau Parka.
Make your own classically styled but Instagram-famous stadium coat in whatever color you want with fancy-schmancy lining to boot? Sweet, right? That said, there are not many versions I’ve seen out there, and even fewer full reviews of it.
And dudes, the reviews. If you’ve even glanced at them, you know there’s a drafting error with the back lining piece. No big deal, it’s not a hard fix — just check out the other reviews on Pattern Review for the solution. (I opted to narrow the outer back piece, and I should’ve enlarged the lining instead, so I am not the one to advise on the best way to do correct this error.)
I feel like everyone who sewed this up really likes their coat, but is not ready to endorse this pattern, and that’s exactly how I feel. I mean, I’m happy that I’m divorced, but I wouldn’t exactly recommend it to friends. That’s the vibe I have from this pattern. I can’t recommend it, but if you really want a nice coat and are ready to roll your sleeves up and do the damn thing, then go for it.
Okay, let’s talk about the fabric I used. The outer fashion fabric is a wool (probably a blend? It’s been in the stash a few years, so I’m not sure). It has a sweater knit type of look and is a gray and white mottled blend. I’m sure there are technical terms for all of this, but I sure as hell don’t know them. It’s not super heavy, so I wanted to do more than just line the coat per the instructions. I knew a wanted an extra layer to add warmth. After finding some cute pre-quilted polyester gingham on clearance at Joann, I thought it would be a nice shortcut: lining and batting all in one. I was saving myself some extra cutting and application work, and it was cute (if a bit cutesy) — score one for me.
Of course, this stuff is a real pain to work with. It’s the most polyester of polyesters: it moves around, the filler expands and contracts exactly where you don’t want it to, and generally makes it hard (for me, at least) to be accurate. I don’t regret choosing it, but it didn’t perform any better or easier than I anticipated.
I also got lost in the wormhole of coat interfacings. LOTS of opinions out there, folks. LOTS. I went with the recommendation to use fusible weft on nearly all components: front, side front, cuffs, hems, pockets, armholes. It really does seem to be great for adding soft, flexible heft to coat and jacket fabrics. Highly recommended. Except I didn’t buy quite enough. So the pockets were interfaced with a woven iron-on I bought from Cali Fabrics but can’t remember enough to really describe what it is.
Okay, onto the pattern options. I knew I wanted a hood. I’ve been eyeing these sleek, tailored coats (I have that gorgeous Isaac Mizrahi Vogue pattern that came out earlier this year and have been itching to sew it up once I find the right fabric and I also LOVE the look of the Sapporo coat), but in reality, I need a coat that’s really warm and that covers me. I’m out walking and at the park every day with JuJu (who is no longer Baby JuJu, and is fully Toddler JuJu), and I need my neck and wrists covered, as well as some drizzle protection.
Turns out, there are, like, NO patterns with hoods out there. Okay, that’s a gross exaggeration, but there are shockingly few. So, that pretty much decided me on the pattern itself and View C specifically. While the version with the front pocket zips and fur-trimmed hood is fab, I just imagined the fur getting janky with everyday wear and the pocket zips becoming annoying. Those are the pockets for hands, no zips needed, right? For the hood, I did not interface, underline, or use my fluffy lining. Since I won’t be using it often, I wanted it to lay smoothly and not be unnecessarily puffy. It was the right call, but it’s pretty wimpy when actually needed. How do I know? I got caught in the rain today and had a hard time keeping the hood on while walking in the wind with no free hands.
On to the marking. I wanted to be super accurate, so I basted in and tailor tacked A LOT of markings. It’s kind of fun in the beginning, but it added a couple of days to the project that I kind of regretted later on. Especially the bevy of tailor’s tacks I removed before adding the fusible weft. Because I didn’t think through that far. My fault. Having the center fronts, relevant fold lines, and front zipper stitching line thread traced was useful, though.
So I’ve cut, marked, and fused for literally a week and not a single seam is stitched. (Hey, we’re down to one nap in this household, so that’s all I’ve got, and I usually have other household stuff to do as well. And I’m a super slow sewist.)
I’d read that the pockets are the biggest challenge, just in their general fussiness, and it’s totally true. I also tried to line the pockets with the quilted lining, thinking it would keep my hands extra toasty. I’m sure it would have, but it also made the pockets look WAY puffier than I anticipated, so we’re off: unpick the stitched-on pockets, take them completely apart, and redo them with a standard lining.
Okay, not really a standard lining. I decided to repurpose a dress I’m no longer wearing as piping and lining for the hood, and now, the pockets as well. So no just cutting into straight yardage — first, I had to do a good deal of unpicking of the original dress in order to liberate the lining fabric. No prob, let’s keep going.
Reassemble the pockets, stitch them on, get the other pockets and flaps sewn and placed and realize that they look just enough off-grain to make me SLOWLY GO INSANE if I don’t fix them. Deep breaths. You can fix this, Self. You don’t have much extra fabric, but there is enough to recut one of the pockets and we’ll just try to adjust the other as much as possible.
It sort of worked. One of the arched pockets isn’t quuuuiiiiite the right shape, but the other side came out perfect. And using that woven interfacing instead of the fusible weft? Well, that was clearly a mistake, because even though that interfacing didn’t FEEL stiff on its own, my pockets are now stiff and mostly inflexible, like I’ve sewn cardboard into them. Perfect. Well, on the bright side, we’re through that near-disaster and it should be smooth sailing from here.
Assembling the coat body was actually pretty easy. So was assembling the lining. Except I went to try on the lining, and it’s kind of small. Eeek! I sewed a straight 10 (my usual size), expecting there to be enough ease for a coat of this type. I even measured another jacket I have to see if the finished measurements were comparable, and they were. I guess that puffy fluffy quilted polyester takes up more space than predicted! I restitched the side seams, leaving as small a seam allowance as I dared. Another note: this fabric wanted to unravel so badly. I pinked all my seams, since serging them seemed to create a lot of extra bulk. I hope it works!
After some more unpicking of darts in the dress I was cutting up for lining, I got the hood assembled and attached, and the zipper installed. The zipper was the easiest part, to be honest. Just a note: the zipper tape shows on one side when the coat is unzipped. I decided to roll with it, but I can see it bothering a lot of the type of folks who would be tackling this jacket.
And before bagging, let’s make some piping! That’ll be fun! (Spoiler alert: no, it won’t be.)
Okay, it’s actually time to bag the lining! Stitching the lining to the coat was not a big deal, but again, that polyester and the infernal batting constantly squishing out. It was tough on my machine, and made it hard to be accurate. There are probably methods to address this, but I just wanted to power through, so that’s exactly what I did. Honestly, I’m exhausted just writing about this, so you can imagine how incredibly OVER IT I was at this point. Oh, and I broke two needles in the process (metal zipper accident).
Bonus Oops: I trimmed a bit of lining when I should’ve have in a total facepalm moment. I had to patch in a new section, right in the front. Amazing. And totally my fault. So that was another day lost.
All that, and it’s the hem that really broke me. I could not figure out the instructions. Seriously. And I’m not one of those folks who is terrified of Big 4 patterns. The instructions are always clear enough to figure out, even if there are some head-scratcher moments. But DAMN, I just did not understand what I was supposed to do. I’ve bagged linings before, but I just couldn’t wrap my head around what was a very simple step. I ended up using a different method, resulting in a seam at the bottom of the coat instead of the coat fabric being neatly folded under.
And to be honest, it looked kind of shitty. I was prepared to live with it. I even went out and took blog photos. And when I looked at them, I saw how bad it really was.
The hem looked terrible, and one of front bottom corners was flipping up like CRAZY. I wanted to be done with the project, but after all that work and frustration, I didn’t want to sorta-kinda-actually hate my new coat.
I unpicked, unbagged, and spent another couple of sewing sessions trying to get that front flap to lay flat. I also undid the alternate hem method because what I needed to do finally clicked. (Turns out, I didn’t need to do much of anything. I just needed to tack the hem up to the seam allowances in a couple of places. So, some re-pressing (haha, I would love to repress the whole experience…) and hand-stitching, and I think it’s a significant improvement, even if it’s not perfect.
Plus, I didn’t actually mind making these changes much. Once it felt like it was my choice, and I could stop and call it day at any time, I got a lot less frustrated. Aren’t things funny that way? I guess I’m not really that different from my toddler: I do much better when I have a choice.
To sum up a bit, I really hated the sewing experience. But the actual coat is pretty nice and wearable. Yes, it’s definitely a size too small for me in the hips specifically, which I’m sure my bulky fabrics contribute to, but seriously, it’s a coat. I need that fluff! I strongly recommend sizing up one size (maybe more) if you’re concerned, but YMMV.
I also recommend taking a second look at the pockets. The bottom pocket (I added the flap, which is useless but looks cool) is a perfect size for a phone, but not particularly great for getting said phone out quickly and easily. And the top pockets? They’re not as luxuriously large as I had hoped. I kind of have to crunch my hand down in there to get my whole hand in with wrist coverage.
If I make this again (lol, right? But you never know…), I would either a) add about two inches in length to the top pocket, and drop the lower pocket placement down a bit to accommodate or b) raise all the pockets to be more like the J Crew version and shorten the jacket completely. Probably Option B.
There are litany of small-to-medium errors (flat piping did NOT go smoothly or uniformly, there’s some very visible pulling on the front edges, the visibly unpicked darts on the hood lining got some prime placement on accident, etc), but I’m trying to be chill. Turns out, this probably isn’t the best coat I’ll ever make, and when I think about it that way, I’m kind of stoked. I’ll make more coats in my life — why does this one need to be OMGtheultimatecoat? When I think of future coats, it really helps me put this in perspective as a solid learning experience.
And it’s not all negative–things I love:
*The floral hood lining. It’s super visible, and prints are not my style lately, but I LOVE it. It shows that it’s mine, and 100 percent unique. Also happy to have put that old dress to good use.
*The warmth. I’m so damn toasty, which my perpetually freezing self is reveling in.
*I don’t think a lot of folks will even notice the flaws. Pretty aware that I’m being self-critical and that most non-sewists would think it was amazing that I made a coat.
*The topstitching — it came out pretty good overall. This is probably the last project I’ll make on my old mechanical Kenmore (I bought a Pfaff Passport 3.0 about halfway through this saga and have barely touched it since I didn’t want to taint it with this godforsaken project), and it did a solid job. Enjoy your retirement, Kenmore. You did good.
Forever long post complete. Thanks for reading, 2 people who made it to the end. Bottom line: take on challenges, try not to freak out when sewing makes you feel incredibly stupid, and then enjoy your projects, imperfections, blurry photos, and all.
Welcome to the closet, my Crazymaking, Cold-Vanquishing Coat of Doom!
Hi! You made a perfectly wearable, warm, cozy, good-looking coat! Hurray! The next one will be even more amazing ?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I wonder how soon I’ll be ready to dive in again…
Wow what a marathon endeavour but the end result is so worth it. Well done and thank you for such an informative review of the making.
Thank you! It *did* feel like a marathon, now that you put it that way! Where’s my medal? Oh wait, I *did* get a coat out of the endeavor!
That was a really helpful, detailed review, thanks. Don’t think I’ll make that pattern now, haha, but it looks good on you. It was definitely worth all your extra work. 🙂
Thank you, Sue! I don’t want to deter anyone from trying this pattern — most of the errors were self-induced after all. But yeah, a coat is time investment as much as anything, so make sure you love the idea of this pattern if you do decide to dive in!
I bought this pattern . Glad I have your review to refer back to once I start the coat. Yours looks cute.
Oooh! Don’t let me deter you — most of the errors were of my own making. (But definitely measure and maybe muslin first!) I hope you have a fun time making this — the end result is super satisfying!
Thank you so much for this post, haha! I have this pattern, was also imagining it as my own personal knock-off of the j.crew coat, and really appreciate you sharing all the nitty gritty details of your process. I ‘ve never sewn a coat, so I might save this for my 2nd coat, but still, I’m excited to think about sewing it someday!
Do not let my rambling deter you! I debated editing my post down after I cooled off a bit, but I also wanted to be able to go back and remember exactly how frustrating the process was (mostly to remind myself that it never seems that bad even a week or two later).
I also highly recommended listening to the Love to Sew podcast episode about coatmaking before you start your first coat. I listened to it after the fact, and felt like all the early prep and effort was normal and not some error or inefficiency on my part. It was helpful for both raw information and also perspective.
Fantastic review! I can feel your process frustration loud and clear, lol! Laughing with you; not at you, as any garment seamstress surely has experienced this type of project ~ probably many times! Your “medal” is a yummy, warm, beautiful coat that you’ll wear again and again. Your sewing memories will bring a smile to your face every time I bet! When I sew this pattern I will smile when thinking about your blog post. Many thanks for the review & the smiles!
I thought about editing this all down after I cooled down, but hoped that maybe other sewists would “get it” and not feel alone when they have those moments. Thanks for reading and letting me blow off my steam — I love that it gave you a laugh, and good luck with your version!
I’m working on this coat and am having a hard time attaching the lining neck edge to the coat neck edge; it’s a hot bunched mess. Did you find it difficult to see this area?
I went through the same—clipping is your friend! Make sure you’ve stay-stitched the neck edges and clip as much as needed to help those edges match up. Also, I ended with a small bunch in one place but decided to let it go since the hood would cover it 95 percent of the time. I also had adjusted where the center front fold was on one side (so that the placket to cover the zipper was a little bit bigger) so that could’ve affected how much bunching I was dealing with. I am sending you ALL the good sewing vibes!!!!
Haha oh man thank you for taking us on that journey. I considered this coat project for my First Coat and rejected it because of that drafting error (and because I walk into traffic when wearing a hood, no fault of the pattern) and now I have the holiday gift of feeling smug. ; ) In all seriousness this is a great review of what seemed like a challenging experience BUT the coat is totally chic and pro looking, so hats off to you! And hoods on! And look both ways before walking into traffic!
Enjoy your well-deserved smugness, my friend! You made the right call!
I’ve just found your blog. This projectis an inspiration to all who sew. I am returning to sewing after years of only mending. in the past I have sewed extensively, but I feel as if during my hiatus all my skills were lost. This posts a reminder that each project is a way to increase my skills and learn new techniques. Sewing a coatbis on my project list so thanks for being real about your project.
Thanks for the review! Very helpful and generous of you. You did a great job in the end. So glad you stuck with fixing the hem. Are you still wearing your coat a year later?I think coats are the most gratifying items to make next to swimsuits!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience sewing this coat! I think I am going to make a coat from waffle patterns instead. Great job on actually finishing the coat and I can tell a lot of work went into it!!
Hi Sara I have just finished the 8470 pattern. I started in October 2019 but put a cotton lining in instead of the proper lining for coats. Of course this presented problems as my arms would not ‘slide in’!
It was summer then who wants to make a coat for winter in summer its summer Tops time!
I had a problem with the zip but worked that out. Come winter this year thought I had better finish the coat off, like you it took a bit of thinking when I came to the hem. The only part of the coat I do not like is the Hood its far too big.
I would make this coat again but without the hood and of course the proper lining first time. I only made the bottom half of the pockets first time so I would stick to that. I thought my sewing garment days were over at 75yrs but you have encouraged me to carry on. regards Sandra
I feel you! Been there many times – If something can go wrong, I’ve done it, BUT This review was totally entertaining and I think your coat turned out quite nicely. Kudos for hanging in there!